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Pink floyd song ukraine hey hey rise up11/20/2023 ![]() Maybe they are useful idiots to some greater machine, but they would say they are far left, unapologetically red, and that everything in western media about Ukraine and Russia (and outside of this scope, China) is outright lies and that Ukraine and the west should have respected Putins request to not entertain NATO membership. ![]() I see people saying Ukraine only gets attention for its European citizens, which is framed as being problematic and racist.Īll criticisms of Putin (and on another note, the CCP when it comes to China) are framed as western propaganda by plenty of very real people I come in contact with, but mostly avoid because I find them frustrating. I see people argue the threat of NATO membership was justification for the attack frequently, or just argue that the US in the Middle East was worse or equivalent (in order to justify Russia doing what it is doing, which is separate from legitimate criticism of USA). I know Russia and Putin don’t represent communism, but I also see tons of whataboutism mixed with outright support from real people, living in NYC and generally being surrounded by varying shades of Democrat voter to self-proclaimed far left. I can assure you, neither the " Far Left" nor soc ialists actually condone Ru ssi a's invasio n of Ukrai n e. It is also no secret that way too many pundits and politicians - including many American ones - are eager to start a nuclear war with Russia even if it means throwing the Ukrainian people under the bus I do not think it is "both-siding" the conflict to point that out.Īt the end of the day, I think it is much more likely that Gilmour and he just cannot stand each other anymore. Just because some jagoffs on Russia Today's payroll claim otherwise does not make it the "far-left/socialist position".Īlso, as the article points out, whatever Waters' previously questionable opinions on the topic of Ukraine are, he is now openly opposing the Russian invasion, calling Putin a "gangster". ![]() Why would they anyway, as Putin himself is unapologetically anticommunist. I can assure you, neither the "Far Left" nor socialists actually condone Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Reading this article, Waters comes off like he's taking the far-left/socialist position of "Russia was forced into invading" or at the very least trying to both-sides it.
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